Song Editor in Suno v5: Composer’s Workflow - Jack Righteous

Song Editor in Suno v5: Composer’s Workflow

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Song Editor in Suno v5: A Composer’s Workflow

Edit sections on the waveform, control variation with sliders, and export stems for DAW mixing.

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Learning Objectives

  • Map Song Editor tools to concrete composition steps.
  • Remake, rewrite, extend, reorder, and delete sections without rerolling the whole track.
  • Export multi-stems and finish a mix in a DAW.
  • Pair section edits with Weirdness, Style Influence, and (with uploads) Audio Influence.
  • Diagnose common problems fast and fix them.

What the Song Editor does

  • Section editing on the waveform: Remake, Rewrite, Extend, Reorder, Delete per section.
  • Stem extraction: split a song into multiple stems (UI currently offers up to 12-track extraction). Verify current max in UI.
  • Enhanced uploads: work from your own audio; limits depend on plan and current model. Verify current length/size in UI.
  • Creative sliders: Weirdness & Style Influence are available; Audio Influence appears with uploads.

Section tools — when to use which

  • Rewrite: keep section role/intent; adjust melody/lyrics within the form.
  • Remake: generate a new musical idea for that section (respects prompt + sliders).
  • Extend: append bars at the tail; existing bars stay the same.
  • Reorder: move sections on the timeline; audio content unchanged.
  • Delete: remove weak regions; transitions are engine-handled.

Creative sliders (v5)

Weirdness (Safe → Chaos)

~50% ≈ “normal” baseline.

  • Raise to explore; lower for predictable hooks.

Style Influence (Loose → Strong)

  • Raise for tighter adherence to your style input; lower for looser fusions.

Audio Influence (with uploads)

  • Raise if the upload should lead (featured vocal/riff); lower for texture beds.

Standard section map (copy/paste)

[INTRO 4] [VERSE 1 8] [PRE 4] [CHORUS 8]
[VERSE 2 8] [PRE 4] [CHORUS 8]
[BRIDGE 8] [CHORUS 8] [OUTRO 4]

Numbers = target bar counts. Keep counts stable while you test remakes.


Energy curve rubric

Section Energy (1–5) Notes
Intro 1–2 Sparse; no lead yet
Verse 2–3 Lyric clarity; few midrange parts
Pre 3–4 Riser/perc detail
Chorus 4–5 Hook instruments + BGV
Bridge 3–4 Contrast or new motif
Outro 1–2 Taper; remove leads

Lock-first protocol

  1. Lock Chorus: Remake only the Chorus; Weirdness ↓, Style Influence ↑.
  2. Freeze Chorus: stop remaking it once it lands.
  3. Shape Verses: use Rewrite for diction/phrasing; keep arrangement sparse.
  4. Explore Bridge: Remake here; raise Weirdness one notch.
  5. Extend only for pre-chorus lifts and outros.

Preset slider ranges (per section)

  • Radio Pop (Chorus lock): Weirdness 35–45, Style 70–85
  • Hip-hop/Trap Verse: Weirdness 40–55, Style 55–70
  • Worship/Gospel Chorus: Weirdness 25–40, Style 75–90
  • Orchestral Bridge: Weirdness 55–70, Style 45–60
  • Ambient Outro: Weirdness 70–85, Style 35–55
  • With lead-vocal upload: Audio Influence 60–75 (lead) / 20–40 (texture)

Adjust ±10; change one control at a time and compare 20–30s regions.


If you uploaded audio

  • Set Audio Influence high for lead; low for texture.
  • State BPM/key in the global prompt and section notes.
  • If timing drifts: remake only the off section (don’t reroll the song).
  • If the upload fights the mix: lower Audio Influence; describe it as “ambient texture.”

Editor + sliders quick matrix

Goal Editor action Sliders Prompt/Edit note
Lock a hook Remake Chorus Weirdness ↓, Style ↑ Short, repeatable chorus lyric
Fix weak verse Rewrite Verse Mid Weirdness/Style Add concrete instrument tags
Add lift into chorus Extend pre-chorus 1–2 bars Weirdness +1 “riser/transition”
Try new bridge idea Remake Bridge Weirdness ↑ Keep other sections frozen
Smooth transitions Reorder / Extend tails Style mid “soft transition / no hard stop”
Upload leads Remake sections around upload Audio ↑ Mark upload “featured”; restate BPM/key

Troubleshooting

Symptom Root cause Editor fix DAW/stem tip
Chorus not memorable Variation too high Lower Weirdness; Remake Chorus; shorten lyric Add one hook instrument
Verse too busy Too many mid parts Rewrite; reduce tags Keep 2–3 mids only
Abrupt cuts Zero-tail regions Extend 1–2 bars Short fade at edit
Timing wobble (uploads) BPM mismatch Restate BPM; remake only off section Check grid after export
Lyric drift Loose adherence Rewrite; keep lines short Use phonetics; see Pronunciation Guide
Bar misalignment in DAW Stems start padding Re-export all stems Align on first transient; match sample rate
Phasey vocals Duplicate doubles Mute extra BGV stem Mono-check on master
Hook lost after edits Later remake overwrote it Revert to saved Chorus Save variants after each good remake

Export naming convention

JR_Project_Song_v03/
  01_Drums.wav
  02_Perc.wav
  03_Bass.wav
  04_Gtr_Rhythm.wav
  05_Gtr_Lead.wav
  06_Keys.wav
  07_Pads.wav
  08_Strings.wav
  09_Brass.wav
  10_FX.wav
  11_BGV.wav
  12_LVox.wav

Same length and sample rate/bit depth across stems.


Editor presets (exact steps)

Hook-First Pop (3 passes)

  1. Remake Chorus ×2 (Weirdness 40, Style 80).
  2. Rewrite Verse 1 (reduce mids; diction check).
  3. Remake Bridge (Weirdness 60); Extend 2-bar tail into Chorus.

Upload-Led Ballad

  1. Audio Influence 65 (lead vocal), Weirdness 35, Style 75.
  2. Remake Chorus only; Rewrite Verse for clarity.
  3. Extend Outro 4 bars; export stems.

Pre-export QA (one screen)

  • Chorus repeats identically; no drift.
  • Verse intelligible in mono.
  • Transitions smooth; tails extended where needed.
  • Uploads in tune/time; BPM/key consistent.
  • Stems test-imported; alignment confirmed.


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